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Regis & Lana's Carr Family Tree
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Name |
John Edgar SCOTT |
Relationship | with John Louis CARR
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Born |
18 JUL 1921 |
Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA |
Gender |
Male |
Census |
1930 |
Van Zandt County, Texas, USA |
Image | | Transcript | Ln | Hhold | Given | Surname | Relation | Gender | Race | BirthDate | Age | Status | BirthPlace | BirthPlace of Father | BirthPlace of Mother | Immigration Year | Occupation | Veteran | Street |
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1 | 3174 | Boyd E | Scott | Head | Male | White | abt 1898 | 32 | | Texas | Texas | Texas | | | | | 2 | 3174 | Pearl | Scott | Wife | Female | White | abt 1898 | 32 | | Texas | Texas | Texas | | | | | 3 | 3174 | Audie M | Scott | Daughter | Female | White | abt 1918 | 12 | | Texas | Texas | Texas | | | | | 4 | 3174 | Robert C | Scott | Son | Male | White | abt 1920 | 10 | | Texas | Texas | Texas | | | | | 5 | 3174 | John E | Scott | Son | Male | White | abt 1922 | 8 | | Texas | Texas | Texas | | | | | 6 | 3174 | Dortha I | Scott | Daughter | Female | White | abt 1924 | 6 | | Texas | Texas | Texas | | | | | Transcript ID is dbid=6224&iid=4547383_00679 |
Census |
1940 |
Kaufman County, Texas, USA |
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27 | 3173 | Boyd E | Scott | Head | Male | White | abt 1897 | 43 | Married | Texas | | | | Farmer | | | 28 | 3173 | Pearl | Scott | Wife | Female | White | abt 1897 | 43 | Married | Texas | | | | | | | 28 | 3173 | Pearl | Scott | Wife | Female | White | abt 1897 | 43 | Married | Texas | | | | | | | 29 | 3173 | Andie Mae | Scott | Daughter | Female | White | abt 1917 | 23 | Single | Texas | | | | Typist | | | 30 | 3173 | Robert C | Scott | Son | Male | White | abt 1920 | 20 | Single | Texas | | | | Farm Laborer | | | 31 | 3173 | John E | Scott | Son | Male | White | abt 1922 | 18 | Single | Texas | | | | Truck Driver | | | 32 | 3173 | Dorothy | Scott | Daughter | Female | White | abt 1924 | 16 | Single | Texas | | | | | | | 33 | 3173 | Betty Jae | Scott | Daughter | Female | White | abt 1931 | 9 | Single | Texas | | | | | | | Transcript ID is dbid=2442&iid=m-t0627-04085-00634 |
Enlistment |
11 FEB 1941 |
Fort Sam Houston, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, USA |
Military Service |
09 JUN 1944 |
St. Laurent-sur-Mer, France |
Military Service |
11 JUN 1944 |
Formigny, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France |
Military Service |
17 JUN 1944 |
Le Molay, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France |
Military Service |
23 JUN 1944 |
Cerisly la-Foret, France |
Military Service |
30 JUL 1944 |
Rouxeville, France |
Military Service |
01 AUG 1944 |
Vieux Calais, France |
Military Service |
04 AUG 1944 |
Sourdeval, France |
Military Service |
14 AUG 1944 |
La Boussardiere, France |
Military Service |
19 AUG 1944 |
Le Vizoc, Bretagne, France |
Military Service |
26 AUG 1944 |
Landerneau, Bretagne, France |
Military Service |
16 SEP 1944 |
Guipavas, Bretagne, France |
Military Service |
30 SEP 1944 |
St. Vith, Liege, Belgium |
Military Service |
10 DEC 1944 |
Elsenborn, Liege, Belgium |
Military Service |
20 DEC 1944 |
Ovifat, Liege, Belgium |
Military Service |
21 DEC 1944 |
Verviers, Liege, Belgium |
Military Service |
21 FEB 1945 |
Dreistegen, Germany |
Military Service |
01 MAR 1945 |
Vlatten, Germany |
Military Service |
08 MAR 1945 |
Munstereifel, Germany |
Military Service |
10 MAR 1945 |
Bad Neuenhr, Germany |
Military Service |
22 MAR 1945 |
Honnigen, Germany |
Military Service |
26 MAR 1945 |
Bendorf Sayn, Germany |
Military Service |
30 MAR 1945 |
Homberg, Germany |
Military Service |
01 APR 1945 |
Netze, Germany |
Military Service |
06 APR 1945 |
Grebebstein, Germany |
Military Service |
09 APR 1945 |
Niedernjesa, Germany |
Military Service |
09 APR 1945 |
Oberscheden, Germany |
Military Service |
11 APR 1945 |
Breitenworbis, Germany |
Military Service |
12 APR 1945 |
Stockhausen, Germany |
Military Service |
13 APR 1945 |
Reinsdorf, Germany |
Military Service |
17 APR 1945 |
Merseberg, Germany |
Military Service |
21 APR 1945 |
Bad Lausick, Germany |
Military Service |
02 MAY 1945 |
Oberviechtach, Germany |
Military Service |
06 MAY 1945 |
Domazlice, West Bohemia, Czechoslovakia |
Military Service |
08 MAY 1945 |
Pilsen, Czechoslovakia |
Military Service |
27 SEP 1945 |
Camp Patrick Henry, Warwick, Virginia, USA |
Western Union Telegram to:
Mrs. John E Scott, 4121 Commerce Street, Dallas: "Arrived safely expect to see you soon dont attempt to contact or write me here love. John.." Received at the Western Union office in Dallas at 4:51 PM. |
Residence |
1956 |
Wezembeek-Oppem, Belgium |
Residence |
1957 |
107 Felton Street, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, USA |
Military Service |
1959 |
Jiddah, Makkah, Saudi Arabia |
Residence |
1960 |
Star Route #1, Lytle, Bexar, Texas, USA |
Military Service |
11 JUN 1961 |
Wheelus Air Base, Tripoli, Libya |
Obituary |
07 APR 1986 |
Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA |
M-Sgt. John E. Scott
M-Sgt. John E. Scott (Air Force, ret.), aged 64, of 24 Lakeside Drive, Hensley, died Monday. He was a veteran of World War II and the Korean war, and a member of Lakeside Country Club at Hensley, Non-Commissioned Officers Association of San Antonio, Tex., and member and past president of the Oak Park Country Club at Lytle, Tex. Survivors are his wife, Vivian Howard Scott; two daughters, Veeta Biggers of Little Rock and Lana Carr of Frankfurt, Germany; a brother, Robert C. Scott of Canton, Tex.; two sisters, Audie Whitt of Terrell, Tex., and Betty Taylor of Dallas, and three grandchildren. Graveside service will be at 10 am. Thursday in National Cemetery by Rev. Clint Burleson. Burial will be by North Little Rock Funeral Home. The family will be at 2009 Arch Street.
Arkansas Gazette (Little Rock) |
Died |
7 APR 1986 |
Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA |
Age |
64 years |
Buried |
10 APR 1986 |
Little Rock National Cemetery, Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA |
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Person ID |
I280 |
Carr-Scott |
Last Modified |
3 DEC 2021 |
Father |
Boyd Elliott SCOTT b. 06 AUG 1897, Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  d. 27 JUN 1977, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, USA (Age 79 years) |
Mother |
Pearl STEWART b. 03 SEP 1897, Van Zandt County, Texas, USA  d. 14 JUL 1981, Terrell, Kaufman, Texas, USA (Age 83 years) |
Married |
06 MAY 1917 |
Van Zandt County, Texas, USA |
Children |
5 children |
+ | 1. Audie Mae SCOTT b. 27 FEB 1918, Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  d. 3 FEB 2005, Terrell, Kaufman, Texas, USA (Age 86 years) | + | 2. Robert Cline SCOTT b. 25 FEB 1919, Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  d. 10 MAR 2000, Canton, Van Zandt, Texas, USA (Age 81 years) | + | 3. John Edgar SCOTT b. 18 JUL 1921, Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  d. 7 APR 1986, Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA (Age 64 years) |  | 4. Dorothy Isabelle SCOTT b. 08 SEP 1923, Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  d. 20 DEC 1953, 2915 Knight Street, Dallas, Dallas, Texas, USA (Age 30 years) | + | 5. Betty Jo SCOTT b. 04 FEB 1931, Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  d. 25 APR 2009, Dallas, Dallas, Texas, USA (Age 78 years) | |
Family ID |
F303 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
Vivian Lucile HOWARD b. 13 FEB 1922, Celina, Collin, Texas, USA  d. 23 MAY 1992, Hensley, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA (Age 70 years) |
Married |
13 APR 1943 |
Elmo, Kaufman, Texas, USA |
- In October 1945 Vivian and Edgar traveled through New Mexico on a long delayed honeymoon; they had been married in April 1943 just before Edgar deployed to Ireland in advance of the invasion of Germany in June 1944. Vivian wrote home to her widowed mother describing the wonderful time she and Edgar were having and regretted having the trip come to an end.
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Age at Marriage |
He was 21 years and 9 months - She was 21 years and 2 months |
Children |
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Last Modified |
17 NOV 2019 |
Family ID |
F301 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Event Map |
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 | Born - 18 JUL 1921 - Wills Point, Van Zandt, Texas, USA  |
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 | Census - 1930 - Van Zandt County, Texas, USA  |
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 | Census - 1940 - Kaufman County, Texas, USA  |
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 | Enlistment - 11 FEB 1941 - Fort Sam Houston, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, USA  |
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 | Married - 13 APR 1943 - Elmo, Kaufman, Texas, USA  |
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 | Military Service - 09 JUN 1944 - St. Laurent-sur-Mer, France  |
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 | Military Service - 11 JUN 1944 - Formigny, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France  |
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 | Military Service - 17 JUN 1944 - Le Molay, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France  |
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 | Military Service - 23 JUN 1944 - Cerisly la-Foret, France  |
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 | Military Service - 30 JUL 1944 - Rouxeville, France  |
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 | Military Service - 01 AUG 1944 - Vieux Calais, France  |
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 | Military Service - 04 AUG 1944 - Sourdeval, France  |
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 | Military Service - 14 AUG 1944 - La Boussardiere, France  |
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 | Military Service - 19 AUG 1944 - Le Vizoc, Bretagne, France  |
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 | Military Service - 26 AUG 1944 - Landerneau, Bretagne, France  |
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 | Military Service - 16 SEP 1944 - Guipavas, Bretagne, France  |
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 | Military Service - 30 SEP 1944 - St. Vith, Liege, Belgium  |
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 | Military Service - 10 DEC 1944 - Elsenborn, Liege, Belgium  |
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 | Military Service - 20 DEC 1944 - Ovifat, Liege, Belgium  |
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 | Military Service - 21 DEC 1944 - Verviers, Liege, Belgium  |
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 | Military Service - 21 FEB 1945 - Dreistegen, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 01 MAR 1945 - Vlatten, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 08 MAR 1945 - Munstereifel, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 10 MAR 1945 - Bad Neuenhr, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 22 MAR 1945 - Honnigen, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 26 MAR 1945 - Bendorf Sayn, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 30 MAR 1945 - Homberg, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 01 APR 1945 - Netze, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 06 APR 1945 - Grebebstein, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 09 APR 1945 - Niedernjesa, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 09 APR 1945 - Oberscheden, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 11 APR 1945 - Breitenworbis, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 12 APR 1945 - Stockhausen, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 13 APR 1945 - Reinsdorf, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 17 APR 1945 - Merseberg, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 21 APR 1945 - Bad Lausick, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 02 MAY 1945 - Oberviechtach, Germany  |
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 | Military Service - 06 MAY 1945 - Domazlice, West Bohemia, Czechoslovakia  |
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 | Military Service - 08 MAY 1945 - Pilsen, Czechoslovakia  |
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 | Military Service - Western Union Telegram to:
Mrs. John E Scott, 4121 Commerce Street, Dallas: "Arrived safely expect to see you soon dont attempt to contact or write me here love. John.." Received at the Western Union office in Dallas at 4:51 PM. - 27 SEP 1945 - Camp Patrick Henry, Warwick, Virginia, USA  |
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 | Residence - 1956 - Wezembeek-Oppem, Belgium  |
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 | Residence - 1957 - 107 Felton Street, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, USA  |
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 | Military Service - 1959 - Jiddah, Makkah, Saudi Arabia  |
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 | Residence - 1960 - Star Route #1, Lytle, Bexar, Texas, USA  |
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 | Military Service - 11 JUN 1961 - Wheelus Air Base, Tripoli, Libya  |
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 | Obituary - M-Sgt. John E. Scott
M-Sgt. John E. Scott (Air Force, ret.), aged 64, of 24 Lakeside Drive, Hensley, died Monday. He was a veteran of World War II and the Korean war, and a member of Lakeside Country Club at Hensley, Non-Commissioned Officers Association of San Antonio, Tex., and member and past president of the Oak Park Country Club at Lytle, Tex. Survivors are his wife, Vivian Howard Scott; two daughters, Veeta Biggers of Little Rock and Lana Carr of Frankfurt, Germany; a brother, Robert C. Scott of Canton, Tex.; two sisters, Audie Whitt of Terrell, Tex., and Betty Taylor of Dallas, and three grandchildren. Graveside service will be at 10 am. Thursday in National Cemetery by Rev. Clint Burleson. Burial will be by North Little Rock Funeral Home. The family will be at 2009 Arch Street.
Arkansas Gazette (Little Rock) - 07 APR 1986 - Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA  |
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 | Died - 7 APR 1986 - Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA  |
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 | Buried - 10 APR 1986 - Little Rock National Cemetery, Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA  |
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Photos
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46 Photos |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1940 Truck This picture may have been taken on the same date as the nearby rabbit hunt photo. The back of the photo is stamped by the Maresch Studio, 106 N./ Francis St., Terrell, Texas. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1943 Rabbit Hunt Edgar is pictured with an unidenfied hunting partnter. The rabbit may not have ben the reuslt of a hunt- it may simply have strayed too close to a dog! |
 | 2nd Infantry Division shoulder patch Worn by John Edgar Scott during WWII. His future son-in-law, RJCarr, would twice wear a similar patch while stationed at camps in South Korea in 1974 and 1977. John Edgar's grandson, RJCarr II, would also wear the patch while stationed at Fort Lewis, WA in 2015.
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1943 with his bride, Vivian The picture of Edgar & Vivian is dated 23 April 1943, 10 days after their marriage ceremony. Since Edgar would soon to deploy for training as part of the European invasion force, they were forced to hold off on a honeymoon until October 1945 - a nearby postcard sent by Vivian towards the end of the honeymoon relays her reluctance to be returning home to Texas - and to work. Their marriage was an improbable success; they were married six days after meeting, yet, their wonderful marriage endured until Edgar's death in 1986. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1943 v2 Photo was taken at the 2nd Infantry Division studio at Fort Sam Houston, Texas. It quite likely became an "exchange" photo after his new wife, Vivian Lucile (Howard), shared her photo with him. |
 | Scott, John E: 1943 Fort McCoy Pillow Edgar sent this pillow case to his wife, Vivian, shortly after returning to Fort McCoy, WS. He had met and married her while home in Texas during a two-week emergency leave period. They would not enjoy a honeymoon until Edgar returned from Europe. The pillow case reads:
My Wife
A darling little wife
She blesses all my life
You are my partner sweet
You make my life complete
Their daughter, Lana, found the item in their cedar blanket chest after they both died.
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 | Scott, Boyd Elliott: 1943 Family Back row Betty Jo, John Edgar, Audie Mae and Robert Cline.
Front row: Dorothy Isabel, Boyd Elliott and Pearl (Stewart) Scott |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 Northern Ireland Edgar is shown with friends he and fellow cooks made while staging in Northern Ireland for the Normandy invasion. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 Northern Ireland This picture of Edgar was taken at H. Allison & Son, 42 Scotch Street, Armagh, Ireland and sent home to his wife, Vivian. Staff Sergeant John E. Scott was assigned to the 702 Maintenance Company of the 2nd Infantry Division in early 1944 when the Division was staging for the Normandy invasion. |
 | 2nd Infantry Division (2ID) Omaha Beach: 1944 JUN 07 This classic photo of 2ID soldiers climbing up the slope from Omaha Beach was enlarged and hung on a wall in the WWII Museum in New Orleans, LA. Veeta (Scott) Biggers visited the museum in January 2016 and as she glanced up at the photo, the second soldier in the column looking at the photographer drew her attention. While there may be no way to confirm his identification to an absolute certainty, she was convinced that it was her father, SSG John Edgar Scott, who was with the 702 Ordnance Company, 2ID on that very day! |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 June 07, Omaha Beach Veeta (Scott) Biggers visited the WWII Museum in New Orleans in January 2016 and as she rounded a corner there was a large photo of 2ID men climbing up from Omaha Beach. A soldier in the column drew her attention and she in turn snapped a photo of him to share with her family. While there may be no way to confirm his identification, it sure looks like her father, SSG John Edgar Scott, who was with the 702 Ordnance Company, 2ID who landed on Omaha Beach on D+2.
Veeta's sister Lana (Scott) Carr agreed and added another interesting observation about the photo: their mother had a copy of the photograph that they assume their father had clipped from the Stars & Stripes newspaper and sent home during the war. They conclude that he sent the photo because he recognized himself; unfortunately there was no accompanying letter to confirm their assumption.
During the 75th Anniversary of D-day, 06 June 2019, Veeta again examined the picture when she noticed that the soldier was carrying what appeared to be a towel on his shoulder - her father habitually wore a towel over his shoulder when he worked in the fields of the family farm. That observation further iced her opinion that the soldier is indeed John Edgar Scott. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 Bivouac John Edgar Scott is depicted 2nd from the right at a unit bivouac during WWII...the location is presumed to be on the mainland of Europe rather than at the 702 Maintenance Company, 2nd Infantry Division staging area in Northern Ireland prior to the June 6, 1944 invasion. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 France On the back of this photograph of Edgar is a typed note: "June 1944 in France in no mans land." The alphanumerics (2-X-702) on the right front bumper reflects Edgar's unit designation: 2nd Division 702nd Ordnance Company. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 Dog Tags The format for the Army m1940 dog-tags changed four times between December 1940 and April 1946. Edgar's dog-tags reflect last version. Two notations were added in later years: a second Tetanus shot in 1950 and his RH factor: "NEG". Although the RH factor was available in 1940, the US military did not use it during WWII. Edgar likely had an earlier set of dog-tags since he enlisted in 1940.
Name: SCOTT, JOHN E
Service number: 18011516
Blood type: O NEG
Religion: P (for Protestant)
Tetanus shot dates: T44 and T50
www.5ad.org/ArmyDogTags.htm |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Belgium Edgar's 2ID unit spent October 1944 thru January 1945 in a variety of bivouac locations in Belgium. The back of this photograph indicates it was taken in January 1945; since his unit was in Verviers from late December thru late January, Verviers is probably where the photo was taken. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1943 Europe Possibly taken while stationed in Northern Ireland |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 E-1 Draw, Omaha Beach An Army Signal Corps description of the photo reads: "2nd Infantry Division marching up the bluff at the E-1 draw in the Easy Red sector of Omaha Beach on D+1, 7 June 1944. They are going past the German bunker, Widerstandsnest 65, that defended the route up the Ruquet Valley to Saint-Laurent-sur-Mer."
A monument was dedicated to the US 2nd Infantry Division on the sea front, by the German defensive bunker, Widerstandsnest 65 (WN 65). John returned to that bunker location in 1985 during a visit to see his daughter, Lana who was then living in Wolfgang, a suburb of Hanau, Germany.
While visiting the WWII Museum in New Orleans, Veeta (Scott) Biggers observed a mural-sized version of the photograph on a wall and was struck by the face of the soldier looking right into the camera lens - he looked just like her father, John Edgar Scott, who had landed on Omaha Beach with the 702nd Ordnance Company, 2nd Infantry Division. Later Veeta would observe that the soldier had a towel slung over his shoulder - just like her father used to do when working in the farm fields at home after the war.
Lending credence to her conviction was a copy of the photo that her father clipped and sent home to her mother, Vivian, then living in Arlington, Texas. That clipped photo is currently in the possession of his second daughter, Lana (Scott) Carr. No corresponding letter remains available that might have explained the photo's personal significance to John.
("Under a Stars & Stripes newspaper headline, "Yanks 8 Mi. From Cherbourg" was the same iconic photo of troops climbing up from Omaha Beach. The caption reads: "A steady stream of reinforcements continues to advance from a Normandy beach to the front line." Although the photo was in the 20 June edition of the paper, it was taken on 07 June.) |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 "They're Streaming Into France to Help" Under the Stars & Stripes newspaper headline, "Yanks 8 Mi. From Cherbourg" was an iconic photo of troops climbing up from Omaha Beach. The caption reads: "A steady stream of reinforcements continues to advance from a Normandy beach to the front line."
While visiting the WWII Museum in New Orleans, Veeta (Scott) Biggers observed a mural-sized version of the photograph on a wall and was struck by the face of the soldier looking right into the camera lens - he looked just like her father, John Edgar Scott, who had landed on Omaha Beach with the 702nd Ordnance Company, 2nd Infantry Division. Later Veeta would observe that the soldier had a towel slung over his shoulder - just like her father used to do when working in the farm fields at home after the war. Lending additional credence to her conviction was a copy of the photo that her father clipped and sent home to her mother, Vivian, then living in Arlington, Texas. That clipped photo is currently in the possession of his second daughter, Lana (Scott) Carr. No corresponding letter remains available that might have explained the photo's personal significance to Edgar.
Although the photo was in the 20 June edition of the paper, it was taken on 07 June when units of the support echelon of the 2ID landed. (An Army Signal Corps description of the photo read: "2nd Infantry Division marching up the bluff at the E-1 draw in the Easy Red sector of Omaha Beach on D+1, 7 June 1944. They are going past the German bunker, Widerstandsnest 65, that defended the route up the Ruquet Valley to Saint-Laurent-sur-Mer.") |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945c and wife Vivian |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1946 Vivan plus John Edgar and Vivian are in the right side of a photo was developed by Studer's in San Antonio, TX. Other persons are not yet identified. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1947 USAF E6 This picture of Edgar was taken sometime after September 1947, the point when the USAF became a separate branch of service. Prior to that time it was known as the Army Air Corps. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1947 USAT Thistle Edgar may have taken this ship to Adak, AK in 1947 since it appears that Adak is in the left background. The photograph was found in Edgar's photo album - and was part of his collection from his time on Adak. (Interestingly, a relative of Regis' sailed on the ship in 1931 when it was named the S.S. Munargo, before it was reconfigured as a hospital ship, and then a USAT. See note below. The S.S. Munargo is pictured elsewhere on this website. )
Laid down, 30 September 1920, as the Passenger/Cargo Liner SS Munargo for the Munson S.S. Co., at New York Shipbuilding Corp., Camden, N.J.
Launched, 17 September 1921.
Delivered to Munson S.S. Co., 11 December 1921
Purchased from Munargo Line Co. (Munson S.S. Co.), 27 March 1941, by the US Army at Pier #4 US Army Base Brooklyn, N.Y. for conversion to a troop ship
Acquired by the US Navy from the US Army 6 June 1941
Commissioned USS Munargo (AP-20), 4 June 1941, CDR. Harold F. Ely in command.
Decommissioned, 18 October 1943, at Brooklyn, N.Y. and returned to the War Department
Struck from the Naval Register
Converted for service as a US Army Hospital Ship
Commissioned USAHS Thistle, 15 January 1944
Converted in March 1946 to a US Army Transport ship and redesignated USAT Thistle
Transferred to the Maritime Commission, 1 November 1948, for lay up in the National Defense Reserve Fleet, Astoria, OR.
Final Disposition, sold for scrapping, 13 March 1957, at Astoria, to the Learner Co.
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1947 September in Adak, AK Vivian is shown in pleasant weather outside their quarters before the arrival of Veeta in late November. Edgar is shown two months later in the same general postion - weather still fine. |
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1949c-Japan.jpg
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1952 Sister Dorothy's home Edgar and his wife Vivian are shown on the steps of his sister's home in Dallas. |
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1956c
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 | Scott, Boyd Elliott: 1957 With daughter Betty Jo, son John Edgar and wife, Pearl Stewart |
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1966 BBQ
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1966 Flowers The old chicken coop was converted for storing flowers for wholesale |
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 | Brannon, Sue Ella: 1974 Wedding Sue Ella was escorted to the altar by her uncle John Edgar Scott. |
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1981 - 60th birthday
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1983 Apr with brother Robert at Edgar's 40th wedding anniversary |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1983 reunion Left to right: Betty Jo Taylor, John Edgar, Robert Cline & Audie Mae Whitt |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1983 April with his wife, Vivian, during their 40th wedding anniversary celebration in Lytle (Old Frio City Road). |
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1985 flowers Several photos of flowers grown on the farm owner and managed by John Edgar and Vivian Scott between 1961 and 1986. |
Documents
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52 Documents |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1921 Texas Birth Certificate (Delayed)
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1921 Chronology This document reflects the chronology of John Edgar Scott's life with emphasis on his military assignments. His daughter, Veeta, retains the original documentation. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1940 Enlistment Edgar's enlistment record provides all manner of intersting and useful information. The change of address appended to the bottom reflects his move to Louisana on maneuvers with the 2nd Infantry Divison prior to shipping out to Northern Ireland.
Thirty-three (33) years later his future son-in-law, Regis Carr, would find himself living in the same town, Leesville, following an assignment to Korea with the same division. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1940 Enlistment (Service Record) Edgar Scott is shown on page 3 of his Service Record as having enlisted on 2 August, 1940. This summary document restates the data found on his Enlistment Record. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1940 Enlistment Record This enlistment record shows that Edgar (19) enlisted on 2 Aug 1940 at Fort Sam Houston, TX. Prior to his enlistment he was paid $15/week while working as a laborer and having completed but two years of high school. The physical examination page of the record shows that his right shoulder was 1.5 inches lower than his left and that he was 69" inches tall, weighed 145 pounds and had 20/20 visoion. Attached to the record is a change of address form that indicated as of 27 August, 1942 his mother could be reached at a new address. The form was completed while Edgar could be reached via Army Post Office #2 in Leesville, LA. (Thirty_five years later his son-in-law, Regis, would find himself in the same city while also serving in the Army.) |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1941 Promotion to Sergeant (Temporary) While particpating in maneuvers in Lousiana and after being in the Army for just one year, Edgar was promoted to sergeant (temporary). |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1943 church certificate of marriage
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1943 Marriage to Vivian Scott This is the marriage license for John Edgar Scott & Vivian Howard. The license was granted on 12 April 1943 and the ceremony was conducted the following day by Rev. John L. Hyde in Kaufman County, TX. |
 | Scott,John Edgar: 1944 Spearhead This copy of the 2nd Infantry Division newspaper was probably sent home to Vivian. It contains remarkable stories, many of which retain historical prominence :
Battleship Tirpitz Sunk;
In eastern France: 3rd Army Troops took Metz forts;
Russians were striking for Budapest;
In Italy, the 8th Army gained 2 miles;
Japanese massed for a breakout on Leyte;
14th USAF destroyed base in China;
General Eisenhower asked public to join 6th War Loan drive;
Compulsory military training was main problem facing 78th Congress;
Roosevelt retained old cabinet - except Vincent to become assistant president;
Boeing announced a post-war period transport with range and altitude of the Flying Fort;
Commander Buckley who was decorated for getting General MacArthur away from Philippines was awarded LOM for invasion planning;
Ethyl Barrymore missed 1st perfromce in 50 years;
Army Air Transport, Fire Ball Express, set record in India;
Green Bay Packers defeated the Cleveland Rams 42-7 |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 2ID Christmas Card It is not unreasonable to surmise that the Second Division distributed the Xmas cards to the troops in early December while it was in defensive positions on the Schnee-Eifel - which technically was "Somewhere near Aachen." If correct, the cards would then have been mailed in time to be delivered in the States before Christmas.
Otherwise, from 10 Dec 1944 until mid-January 1945, the 2ID was first moving north from near St. Vith, Belgium in anticipation of offensive operations in Germany and then ultimately defending against the Germans during their Ardennes Counterattack - better known as the Battle of the Bulge.
Given that most mail sent from Europe was in the form of V-mail (microfilmed in Europe and converted back to paper in the US), these colored cards may have been mailed home in their paper form. The Division likely distributed them in November so the troops had time to personalize them and drop them into a mail bag for transport via ship - or maybe, just maybe, flown home as an exception to normal procedure. |
 | 702 Ordnance Company, Second Infantry Division (2ID) (June 1942 - May 1945) The document lists the bivouac sites occupied by the 702nd Ordnance Company during WWII beginning on 09 June 1944 at Saint-Laurent-sur-Mer, France just inland from Omaha Beach, to 08 May 1945 at Plzen in the present day Czech Republic - a straight-line distance of 1232 kilometers. The eastward journey would be made in 36 segments; as short as 3km and as long as 701km. It does not include the return legs used to reach the French port (Le Havre) from which the 2ID would return to the USA. Those legs would not have included T-SGT John Edgar Scott. He was reassigned to the 799th Ordnance Light Maintenance Company in June 1945 and almost immediately began his redeployment to the USA - an indication of how quickly the Army was redirecting its operations towards Japan - even though some units remained as occupation forces in Germany. Regardless, how T-SGT Scott traveled back to the USA is not certain since the National Archives advised that the shipping records for all unit re-deployments were intentionally destroyed in about 1951. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Chronology (WWII Bivouac Locations) This document lists the locations that the 702nd Maintenance Company of the 2nd Infantry Division occupied in the months following their landing in Normandy. Edgar was assigned to this unit for the duration of his deployment in Europe. The locations are reflected in both the nearby Scott-John-Edgar Chronology document and in the map tack locations in Edgar's individual page on this website. After landing at Omaha Beach, on 07 June 1944 the unit moved inland to Saint-Laurent-sur-Mer, France and continued its combat support operations on the mainland until 08 May 1945 when it reached Pilsen in the present day Czech Republic - a straight-line distance of 1232 kilometers. The eastward journey would be made in 36 segments; as short as 3km and as long as 701km. It does not include the return legs used to reach the French port (Le Havre) from which the 2ID would return to the USA. Those legs would not have included TSGT John Edgar Scott since he had been reassigned to the 799th Ordnance Light Maintenance Company in June 1945. Combat units almost immediately began planning redeployment to the USA - an indication of how quickly the Army was redirecting its operations towards Japan - even though some units remained as occupation forces in Germany. How Technical Sergeant Scott traveled back to the USA is not certain since the National Archives advised that the shipping records for all unit re-deployments were intentionally (and inexplicably) destroyed by the Department of the Army in about 1951. It is known that TSGT Scott arrived safely at Camp Patrick Henry, Virginia on 27 September 1945 and sent a telegram to his wife, Vivian, in Dallas, Texas acknowledging same. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Army to Release 5 Million in Year The Stars & Stripes cover page on 17 August, 1945 was sent home by John Scott to his wife, Vivian in Dallas, Texas, who must have been elated to read the news. In a little over 6-weeks from the date of its publication she would receive a Western Union telegram from Camp Patrick Henry, Virginia: "Arrived safely expect to see you soon dont attempt to contact or write me here love. John" (Received at the Western Union office in Dallas, Texas at 4:51 PM, 27 September, 1945.)
In the weeks subsequent to its the publication, John was transported from Pilsin, Czechoslovakia to an presumed seaport in France, arrived somewhere on the eastern seaboard of the USA and transported to Camp Patrick Henry. (Inexplicably, in 1951 the Department of the Army destroyed all passenger lists, manifests, logs of vessels, and troop movement files of United States Army Transports for World War II.)
The newspaper story read in part:
"200,000 High-Scorers Quit ETO Next Month; Combat Vets Go First
The Army will “try desperately” to release 5 million men within a year, Secretary Stimson announced. The age for discharge of enlisted personnel was cut to 38. The critical point score will be lowered when Japan shows that she accepts the surrender terms “in good faith.” Further cuts will be made as transportation becomes available. Some 200,000 high-point troops are to be shipped home from the ETO next month. Combat veterans will get preference over services forces." |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Army to Release 5 Million in Year (part-2) PARIS, Aug. 16 - Shipment home next month of almost 200,000 troops eligible for discharge on points has been scheduled under the revised troop-movement program, USFET announced today.
These troops, it was said, will include some 65,000 men in five divisions--the 63rd, 69th and 103rd Infantry, 6th Armd. and 17th Airborne--alerted for shipment on Wednesday, and 20,000 others in the 5th and 14th Armd. Divs, alerted yesterday.
The announcement said the September shipment of Services Force troops would be retarded to speed the return of combat veterans, but that the rate probably would be restored to normal in October.
Former Combat Men
Of the nearly 200,00 high-point men to return to the U.S. in September, USFET said, about 170,000 will be former combat men of the 3rd and 7th Armies and XVI Corps. The total number of troops now in ETO is about 2,375,000. Allowing 450,000 for the permanent army of occupation, this leaves about 1,925,000 to be returned home. Of this number between 200,000 and 300,000, by unofficial estimates have 85 or more points.
After deducting the army of occupation and 85-point men, the number of men to be returned home from ETO would stand, roughly, at between 1,625,00 and 1,725,000. If the rate of troop movements were to continue at the level of the last three months--almost all these troops could be moved out of Europe in six months.
USFET said low-score men to be returned to the U.S "will not be eligible for discharge at this time."
RJCarr note:
Points were awarded to servicemen based upon the following criteria:
1 point for each month of military service
1 point for each month of military service overseas
5 points for each combat award (Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Silver Star Medal, Distinguished Flying Cross, Soldier's Medal, Bronze Star Medal, Air Medal, Purple Heart - but not for the Combat Infantry Badge)
5 points for each named campaign
12 points for dependent children under the age of eighteen
John Scott had 95 points (unofficial) when the Army discharge program was published in August 1945, so he was assured an early seat on the Magic Carpet as the mass demobilization operation was termed:
48 points: military service from August 1940 to August 1945
22 points: overseas duty from Oct 1943 to August 1945
25 points: Normandy, Northern France, Rhineland, Ardennes-Alsace, and Central Europe campaigns
To facilitate his discharge, it appears that S/SGT Scott was reassigned from the 702nd Ordnance Company (LM), 2nd Infantry Division to the 799th Ordnance Company (LM), 99th Infantry Division on 14 June 1944. He departed Europe on 17 September 1945 and was back in the USA on 27 September via an unknown troopship. The 2ID had already arrived at Camp Swift, Texas on July 22, 1945 to begin training for a possible invasion of Japan. War in the Pacific Theater ended before the 2ID was scheduled to sail. While in Europe, the division participated in five campaigns: Normandy, Northern France, Rhineland, Ardennes-Alsace, and the Central Europe, while suffering 3,031 killed in action and 12,785 wounded in action. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Telegram from Camp Patrick Henry, Virginia Western Union Telegram
From: Camp Patrick Henry, Vir Sep 27 4:51 PM
To: Mrs. John E Scott = 4121 Commerce Street, Dal
Message: "Arrived safely expect to see you soon dont attempt to contact or write me here love. John"
Received at the Western Union office in Dallas at 5:36 PM (date-stamped on the reverse) |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Discharge Edgar was discharged from the Army upon return to the United States from war in Europe. His discharge was for the convenience of the government, e.g., demobilization. He had been awarded Army Campaign Medal with 5 Bronze stars for participation in combat operations in Normandy, Northern France, Rhineland, Ardennes, and Central Europe. He had been overseas continuously from 8 October 1943 until 27 September 1945 which was calculated to be 1 year, 11 months, and 20 days. Ten days at each end of that timeframe were periods of transit at sea. He was given a mustering out pay of $300. He paid $6.60 for each month for life insurance which he chose to discontinue after mustering out. He was issued a lapel button recognizing his total service of 5 years, 2 month and 5 days. The home address listed was that of his sister-in-law, Beulah Mae Howard Brannon. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Discharge
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Separation p1
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1945 Separation p2
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1946 Enlistment This was Edgar's 2nd enlistment. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1946 Promoton in the US Army Air Corps Effective 26 June, 1946 Edgar was promoted to Staff Sergeant (E-6) while stationed at Adak, AK with headquarters at Fort Richrdson, AK. The orders read "He is to observe and follow such orders and directions from time to time, as he shall receive from his Superior Officers and Noncommissioned Officers set over him, according to the rules and discipline of War." The cerificate was signed on 4 April, 1947. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1950 DD214 This document summarized Edgar's 2nd period of military service. The 1st included his wartime service plus an additional year. He took a break in service and then rejoined the Army. This period ended when the USAF was created. A third DD214 issued in 1961 covers all three periods of service. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1950 USAF Re-enlistment
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1951 USAF Appointment to Staff Sergeant Edgar was appointed a Staff Sergeant (E-6) in the Air Force with the same date of rank that he held in the Army Air Coprps. The appointment indirectly reflects the creation of the Air Force as a separate branch of the military on September 18, 1947 under the National Security Act of 1947. It is not clear why it took nearly four years to reflect his Air Force rank. It is entirely possible that units were incrementally transferred to the USAF from the Army - or that Edgar did not request an inter-service transfer until he returned fromm Adak, AK. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1959 Farm Contract
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1959 Land Buyer's statement envelope Perhaps the major significance of the envelope is the stamp - 4-cents! |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1959 Buyer's statement Joseph D. Langford submitted the statement of his closing costs for the land Edgar purchased thru the Veteran's Land Board. A story about said land is elsewhere on this website. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1961 DD-214 This document summarized Edgar's military service. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1946 DD-214
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1950 Enlistment
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1950 Discharge
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 | Scott, John Edgar:1961 Military ID Card
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1961 JUN 11 TDY to Wheelus Air Base, Tripoli, Libya Edgar was sent to Wheelus Air Base for in-patient treatment of a dental problem. While the period of TDY was shown as 89 days, that was a stipulation to preclude interpretation of the travel as a permanent change of station (PCS). As it worked out, he was reassigned from Jidda (Jeddah) Saudi Arabia the following month and was discharged (retired) from the Air Force in August 1961 while en route home to Texas. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1981 Lease/rental
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1997 Ahnentafel
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 | Scott, John Edgar: Ancestor chart This is an ancestor chart prepared by a family member. (either Barbara Ann (Howard) Barnett or Edgar Scott...both of whom have shared documents with me.) |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1984 flower count p1
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1984 flower count p2
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1984 flower count p3 and distribution
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1986 LRN Cemetery plot
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1984 farm inventory page 1
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1984 farm inventory page 2
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1986 Funeral Home Costs
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1986 gravestone
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1986 Statement of Service This document, prepared postmortem, sumarizes the four periods of Edgar's military service and an explanation for the termination:
August 2, 1940 to October 6, 1945 (Demobilization)
June 26, 1946 to November 16, 1950 (Reenlistment in USAF)
November 17, 1950 to September 30, 1961 (RFAD - Honorable service)
October 1, 1961 to April 7, 1986 (Retirement as MSGT) |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1986 Obituary M-Sgt.John E. Scott (Air Force, ret), aged 64, of 24 Lakeside Drive, Hensley, dies Monday. He was a veteran of World War II and the Korean War, and a member of the Lakeside Country Club at Hensley, Non-Commissioned Officers Association of San Antonio, Tex, and member and past president of the Oak Park Country Club at Lytle, Tex. Survivors are his wife, Vivian Howard Scott; two daughters, Veeta Biggers of Little Rock and Lana Carr of Frankfurt, Germany; a brother, Robert C. Scott of Canton, Tex.; two sisters, Audie Whitt of Terrell, Tex., and Betty Taylor of Dallas, Tex, and three grandchildren. Graveside service will be at 10 a.m. Thursday in National Cemetery by North Little Rock Funeral Home. The family will be at 2009 Arch Street. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: Chronology
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1986 Obituary (Little Rock, AR)
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 1959 Texas Land Board Contract MSGT Scott paid the Texas Land Board $7,500 to establish a contract to purchase a 20-acre farm that was a potion of the H. Vickery survey. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1959 Texas Land Office approval Dear Mr, Church:
This office has completed review of the instruments submitted in transfer to John E. Scott of the contract held by Joseph D. Langford for purchase of land through this Program. This Assignment has been approved.
Will you now please see that the enclosed original of the Assignment is recorded in the Deed Records of the office of the County Clerk of Bexar County, Texas and returned to this office at no expense to the Board.
When this has been done, copy of the Assignment will be forwarded for the record of the assignee and the transfer will be complete. |
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 | Scott, John Edgar: 2011 A Texas Veteran's Story In 1959 Edgar purchased a 20-acre farm in south Texas thru the Texas Veteran's Land Board. The ensuing 25 years is a marvelous story of success - the American way. The story of his farm in Lytle, TX is captured in this document. |
 | Scott, John Edgar: 1944 "Butts on this Article" This document captures an experience upon which John Scott did not elaborate with his children during his lifetime. The only detail that his eldest daughter knew was that he had been briefly captured by the German army during WWII and scars on his back were the lingering evidence. At some point he may have provided his wife, Vivian, with other details, but apparently she also did not share them. Fortunately, Vivian retained several artifacts John had sent home during the war that eventually made researching details a family imperative. One of those artifacts was a Stars & Stripes Newspaper article with the title "38th Regt. Bags 78 Tanks In Four-Day Bulge Battle." It seemed innocuous because John was not assigned to the 38th Regiment and because one battle would generally be indistinguishable from another. But there were aspects of the article that made this battle story different – very different - and John he wanted Vivian to read it. So, in the margin near the portion titled “Americans Rescued” John had added a marginal note; "Butts on this article - Scott." His note was akin to claiming "dibs" – although even that explanation may no longer be in common use. John's note simply declared that once the newspaper had been read by all his fellow unit soldiers, he wanted to cut the story from the paper. He did mail the article to Vivian along with a few others describing the capture of American soldiers. As the attached document describes, John was one of those captured soldiers. |
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